We only archive special segments these days, but the conversation in this one was fun, thought-provoking, and at times sublime, and deserves to have some kind of afterlife. Deb Carbin was in for her monthly appearance, and between her and trainees KMO and Dr. Lisa grabbing the reins, it was exceptional. There’s some extra noise in this recording to compensate for a low mic level in post, but so what. Live without a net, warts and all. The really good Peter Aguero interview is also included in the second hour.